tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post5003518694616121587..comments2023-09-10T09:54:59.309+01:00Comments on Screwtape Files: SLV Database #2Louis Cypherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07670126160101669248noreply@blogger.comBlogger154125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-3131920093929031082011-06-01T16:53:11.974+01:002011-06-01T16:53:11.974+01:00No seriously people still think I have an agenda.
...No seriously people still think I have an agenda.<br />Seriously I cant stand propaganda especially where it can hurt people.<br />I really believe what I am saying and for a tiny bit of proof here is one of my adds I have going right now trying to get someone to do a rent to buy so I can be payed in gold or silver or at least so they give me the money to buy it myself so I end up with the same amount of metals either way.While its true cash is not toilet paper at least not now think about doing a rent to buy where I have no idea what the cash will be worth after a rent to by is nearly over years later.I could end up being payed a loaf of bread or a movie rental per month and the banks are not lending and etc etc.I probably wont mind even a small 5 ounces of silver per month as I wont need interests to match inflation or etc to worry about either.<br /><br />And yes I sold one of my extra hoses and put the whole thing into physical gold and silver mostly silver after some bills I had to pay.Got another add if you want to find it that's similar.<br /><br />http://saintjohn.kijiji.ca/c-real-estate-houses-for-sale-Apartment-in-St-George-for-sale-or-an-odd-sort-of-rent-to-buy-W0QQAdIdZ276726530<br /><br /><br />No seriously I really believe this silver thing will make me rich and save me from losing more money on this real estate stuff.Might buy a few mining stocks to for greater profits but the risks are more too.<br />Keep in mind I live in Canada and the currency and real estate risks may not, or at least at this time, be as bad as for the US.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-67471957160847172042011-06-01T02:54:46.143+01:002011-06-01T02:54:46.143+01:00"By the way have you ever been in any of the ..."By the way have you ever been in any of the Silver warehouses in London?"<br /><br />No, and I don't think they let many in. Same over here. When you start storing big dollar amounts, security paranoia is high. I'm from the Perth Mint, so what they'd say, how do we know you haven't been compromised.<br /><br />Re Jeanne d'Arc agenda alert, I think this comment from Trinity B on Turd is worth focusing on: “I really couldn't give a rat's arse, provided that the volatility is there so that we make money.” More volatility, more trading profit.<br /><br />http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/2011/05/really-good-day.html?showComment=1306285285238#c7717754574154861201Bron Sucheckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530576934994289879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-25849077622266671372011-06-01T00:49:51.035+01:002011-06-01T00:49:51.035+01:00[posting in two halves, as Blogspot keeps eating i...[posting in two halves, as Blogspot keeps eating it]<br /><br />Then the article itself. Ten people a day scream at us that there's a silver shortage, that SLV is a ponzi, that Weimar conditions will soon be on us. We rarely stop to question it. The Evil Empire isn't shouting anything one way or another, so it becomes the menacing, brooding, silent enemy. And we have *our* champions all over the web, so we're ok.<br /><br />But, with so much information being pushed out at such high volume, when do we actually stop and think, hey, what's Trinity's agenda here? What's Ultranerd's? What about JPM? And the pro-silver blogs?<br /><br />I have no answers to the above. But I think we all owe it to ourselves to start looking for some. Keep up the good work, guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-10616843523916074782011-06-01T00:48:46.301+01:002011-06-01T00:48:46.301+01:00Hi guys. Long time lurker here, but I've been ...Hi guys. Long time lurker here, but I've been drawn into commenting on this mammoth thread, as I think it's fascinating.<br /><br />The way I see it, we've got lots of strands all leading to the same question. Look at the 150 comments here: it kicked off with "Trinity B". What is Trinity B? A fraud, almost certainly, but one that speaks to a certain audience. It's the 'hope' thing, which all investors share. If only there was someone who knew the real story; if only there was someone who'd lay it all out for us, so we knew the truth; if only there was someone to tell us when to buy and when to sell. We know in our hearts that Trinity or Amber or WB or whatever are probably just trolls, but something inside us desperately wants to believe. We suppress the rational part of ourselves, and replace it with hope.<br /><br />Then we have all the "Ultranerd" stuff, which we’ve heard many times before. The silver shortage, the manipulation, the secret plots of evil JPM led by a cartoon Blythe. We see it on almost every blog, and a kind of group think develops in which dissenting voices are quickly quashed. Fight the Evil Empire! F*ck the Morgue! When so many voices say the same thing, who wants to be on the wrong side of the consensus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-35550912782536548282011-05-31T20:18:12.001+01:002011-05-31T20:18:12.001+01:00Hehe, the pay sucks, but it's oh-so satisfying...Hehe, the pay sucks, but it's oh-so satisfying. The benefits would surely be the silver lining. I hear they actually get paid in silver. I wouldn't know for sure, I'm new, having only been blogging for a few months, and infrequently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-48406039063781564262011-05-31T19:38:13.715+01:002011-05-31T19:38:13.715+01:00I knew it!
BTW where can I get an application for...I knew it! <br />BTW where can I get an application form?<br />What's the pay like? I'll assume the usual govt benefits apply. Thanks in advance.Louis Cypherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670126160101669248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-41713265547924323872011-05-31T19:05:40.392+01:002011-05-31T19:05:40.392+01:00"Costata (@FOFOA) is possibly a government sh..."Costata (@FOFOA) is possibly a government shill ;0 by virtue of his recent silver articles"<br /><br />Hahaha! The goddamn shills are everywhere! Run! Must mean I am, too, and everyone else that sees silver as an industrial commodity. Bastards! The paranoia is killin' me... <br /><br />;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-73770450484899129002011-05-31T17:07:08.581+01:002011-05-31T17:07:08.581+01:00Hey Bron,
Thanks for the confirmation. By the way ...Hey Bron,<br />Thanks for the confirmation. By the way have you ever been in any of the Silver warehouses in London?Louis Cypherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670126160101669248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-2710141243144312222011-05-31T16:18:41.547+01:002011-05-31T16:18:41.547+01:00"My suspicion is they simply take it off the ..."My suspicion is they simply take it off the books. Then when they need to buy silver they simply add it back into inventory. It never moves physically."<br /><br />More than a suspicion, it is what happens. Physically moving it around is the most (less) likely explanation. Silver is bulky.<br /><br />"Is it physically possible for them to move the inventory around as fast as they are reporting?"<br /><br />Silver is not flown around, the cost per ounce would be a killer. When we ship in (which takes 2-3 months) from London it is done 20 tonne to a sea container (that is max capacity of container). I'd guess 20t probably is capacity of trucks as well, for land movements.Bron Sucheckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530576934994289879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-42461860210806971882011-05-31T05:40:01.358+01:002011-05-31T05:40:01.358+01:00Wow, Warren you do not sound like the average Joe ...Wow, Warren you do not sound like the average Joe at all, I'm impressed.You must speed read too as I have no idea how or if you could have read that many of my posts and finding where they were posted too.<br />You can look back in sci.physics on Usenet if you were that interested in my science related postings but its been a while since I have been posting there.I was not getting much feedback on how the theory might be wrong and where else to go with it etc so I got discouraged.I got to feeling like I was talking to myself.<br /><br />And yes I do question myself, am I being objective??. Did that a lot.Developing that theory I think I may have spent as much or more time just trying to figure out where I was wrong.Trying to disprove you own theory is essential to knowing if what you have is any good and saving yourself a lot of humiliation later on.<br /><br />So I took an extra interests in gold and silver lately as a mater of survival and the need to help others too.Much as I love science this is a period of true emergency and history in the making.I had no idea how deep this subject actually goes until I got into it more.<br />For example what has been suggested on other websites is that the very universities themselves may be influenced in a way by those very same powers that by to actually keep promoting Keynesian economics and to avoid teaching anything about such information as the control of the banking industry by the Rothschild's etc all.<br />The very education system itself may have become corrupted. So would that mean that being educated by Harvard in economics is actually being educated in The school of economic propaganda.I do not know but such questions should be asked.If this is true are those people even actually educated ?.<br /><br />One example is not long ago and I think I saved the site where one person was pointing out how much more he learn't outside of his university where it actually looked like some types of information was being kept from him.Forget what it was now.What I also read is something about how the Rothchld family has invested in many universities above the 51% and since they own the fed its gets really easy to speculate on what that could easily mean.I will need to find out more on this as it sounds like it leads to some fascinating speculations.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-9817606172578561612011-05-31T03:01:13.056+01:002011-05-31T03:01:13.056+01:00Ultarnerd, thanks again for rising to the challeng...Ultarnerd, thanks again for rising to the challenge. The expected reaction to an allegation would be to deny it, not to side-step it so I can confirm that you operate at a level of thought somewhat different. I also confirm that you're quite intelligent. I'll also stand by my call of neuro-linguistic-programming .. which is possible you're doing (as a defence mechanic) without realising it. It is certainly present.<br /><br />What I'd like to know is:<br /><br />1. Have you considered that by dogmatically propogating unsubstantiated claims (i.e. without questioning and lacking evidence), that you are perhaps unwittingly filling the role of misinformation agent? You ought to have some serious questions about the silver stuff you've read (on the internet) I know we do. To quote Louis Cypher, quoting John Manyard Keynes: "<i>When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?</i> (<a href="http://thelongrunblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/when-the-facts-change/" rel="nofollow">link</a>)".<br /><br />2. How did you come to use this particular google account for more these many words - when you only used it prior once back in Dec 2010? (I know you post in the marketwatching forums, since I've been reading a lot of your stuff, I'm talking about your posting frequence on Blogspot/Blogger).<br /><br />For what it's worth, you and I are equal (in our paranoia), since in one of your marketwatching posts you have suggested that Costata (@FOFOA) is possibly a government shill ;0 by virtue of his recent silver articles. You're okay in my book, thanks for persisting.<br /><br />Regards,<br />WarrenWarren Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631403827559820571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-62973447348599269932011-05-30T14:49:08.688+01:002011-05-30T14:49:08.688+01:00Don't even get me started on environmentalism ...Don't even get me started on environmentalism scams for profit galore with just a few occasional sprinkling of truths. The whole thing has been a Woodstock for scams.With just enough truth to keep it plausible.I could write a book on the truth about recycling and the logical alternatives.<br />If you think I am a misinformation agent for just the one subject you have no idea.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-40969368003569683842011-05-30T14:43:21.558+01:002011-05-30T14:43:21.558+01:00I have no idea on how to argue I am not a misinfor...I have no idea on how to argue I am not a misinformation agent I have never had that question and it never even occurred to me anyone would even think to ask,This is a really new one to me.If you knew me personally you would really laugh.I'm a science nerd living in a basement and has his own junk yard and lab and never had a real girl friend so I really am the ultimate nerd and if anyone actually thought I was good enough to hire as a misinformation agent I could sure use the money to get my car going again but I might just buy more silver.<br />I am very odd to the extreme.Literally figured out stuff in science years ahead of anyone else and if you look at my main theory on time and space creation you would soon see why I often say.<br />The value of truth is determent more by the scale,quality and duration of its marketing department, rather than the actual measure of its truth.Look at churches.<br /><br />Huge heaping piles of BS that people are willing to pay for has more value than the purest pristine truth that no one wants.<br /><br />I have read with and agree, people respect title they do not respect knowledge.<br /><br />Why else would such a basic truth, as with this alternate theory that explains so much so clearly have been so ignored.Truth should promote itself by its own merit.Such is obviously not the case.<br /><br />So why should all this stuff on fiat money, banks, politicians and gold and silver etc all be any different.The American public as well as other people as well has been dumbed down to the extreme.<br /><br />So now we now have politicians who job it is not to improve society as is commonly believed but to get votes and keep getting votes and are voted into power for their ability to get votes despite how they get them.<br />I have often felt that the use of patriotism is to keep the dumb people voting so the politicians can plan their campaigns around the dumb. People getting to smarter and more informed would make the whole thing harder to plan.Very little of this sort of thing surprises me any more.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-45828636561780645562011-05-30T13:38:53.687+01:002011-05-30T13:38:53.687+01:00That's neither a denial nor an affirmation of ...That's neither a denial nor an affirmation of the allegation ... keep trying. I have no real argument with you Ultarnerd, and you'll be happy to know I'll leave your material up. But your inability to address a central argument, is consistent with someone trying to convince someone of something through repetition and linguistic manipulation. I'm aware that some folk don't have that ability, but I've read some of your posts elsewhere and I'm well aware you have the ability. I'm curious that you do not exercise it here.Warren Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631403827559820571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-13703100793297747702011-05-30T13:25:56.620+01:002011-05-30T13:25:56.620+01:00But some more thoughts, how in the world could I p...But some more thoughts, how in the world could I prove I am not a misinformation agent.<br />But I often say that I do not really need prof that the powers that be will rip of everyone in the paper silver racket and why do I say this, well its just because that's exactly what I would do if I were a ruthless to big to fails scam bank.That's all the reasons I need and should be enough for you too.Reason, good reasoning is good no mater who says it.<br /><br />A saying of mine is that a stooped thing done by the smartest person in the world is still a stupid thing.Same might be said of the reverse.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-83836659516812909282011-05-30T13:16:40.400+01:002011-05-30T13:16:40.400+01:00Lost my whole post and this might be a shortened v...Lost my whole post and this might be a shortened version.<br />Where have where have you ever seen a misinformation agent talking down the US dollar and talking up gold and silver if its not a small mint owner.Not even terrorist would do that as it protects the public.<br />That's really weird and I really do not think I have ever seen one of those but I think I have seen the other kind.<br />But I can find tons of reasons for misinformation agents to talk up the dollar and down gold and silver depending on who is paying them.I could go on about the Rothschild's the FED that they own and banking and the why for the politicians but wow that's a lot of typing.Someone here read The creature from Jeckel island ?? and ? on spelling etc all.<br /><br />The thing about American Patriot, commonly on the Marketwatch forum, was he shown some knowledge yet never ever said anything good about gold or silver and was all pro dollars so much so that he was very suspect in his motives.No one could know that much but still have no clue about the good points on Ag Au etc at all.<br />I still read Jon Nadler on Kitco but I think its mostly because I want to catch the day he actually apologies for having been wrong year after year.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-39538323028728256392011-05-30T10:59:22.286+01:002011-05-30T10:59:22.286+01:00Ultarnerd, your NLP is perfect. You won't ever...Ultarnerd, your NLP is perfect. You won't ever address the allegation that you're a disinformation agent because it's not in your playbook to address it, right? In fact you can't resist spamming this thread a few more times because I've called you on it (again).Warren Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631403827559820571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-8147761002755068652011-05-30T10:52:22.770+01:002011-05-30T10:52:22.770+01:00Heavens help me I need to proof read more.
I spell...Heavens help me I need to proof read more.<br />I spell bad I spell really bad, I need a bath.<br /><br />I repeatedly typed "but" when I meant "buy"<br /><br />One of my favorite forums allows me to edit and I am used to doing it a lot.Its a forum created because the original forum at Marketwatch were repeatedly deleting their posts and yes they were mostly pro gold and silver from actual knowledgeable traders and I do mean actually knowledgeable.What strikes me odd is I never have my posts deleted until I posted speculating one of them might have been hired by the government or etc all to censor.Got at least 2 of my posts deleted that day.Be suspicious be very suspicious.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-6193516413915832282011-05-30T10:35:11.919+01:002011-05-30T10:35:11.919+01:00I know I can buy silver any time thats true but ev...I know I can buy silver any time thats true but ever since I bought my silver at 12.00 an ounce US I only payed 1.00 premium.Cant find it now for that and the same mint I bought them from its now near 2.00 an ounce premium.So I do not know what to say here Its just what I see.In fact the same Pan am ingots from the same NWT mint were almost 10.00 premium on 1 ounce ingots but I should not make much of it as you can get them much cheaper elsewhere so I have no real idea whats that about.<br />And I did not say that the small mints will run out sooner I meant they will run out last.Its the Comex and SLV and GLD that may or may not actually own their silver that will be the last to run out.This is because those small mints are very close to the people themselves and in physical there are not so many shenanigans possible.You need the real thing to sell the real thing.But its just my prediction but I do believe its happening now.Big guys wont run out because they do not need to actually have physical to sell silver and or can do reserve banking etc all.<br />True these is no real shortage yet and as long as I can call a local mint and they have some then I wont panic either when I sell someone a bit of my silver for a small profit as long as more is available in some form, but I fear the day when I sell a little and call the mints and its no longer almost at the paper price.But I do believe them when they say some silver is not so easily available, that the premiums are more and they are overwhelmed by orders as reports on this are getting too common now.<br />By the way I pridict AMPEX will be the very very last to show shortages as it way to popular.<br /><br />Yes I do but scrap gold and silver here and I actually but on a guess about 300.00 worth of gold for every 10.00 of silver.There just is no silver around as scrap if its dollar by dollars worth since silver is just so cheap.After I got a bit of money I literally bought about 1/2 of all the scarp silver on ebay for about 2 days, I would be lucky to last a few hours trying to buy all the scarp gold.Yet go into a small mint and they got loads of silver.One mint was claming it was selling about 200 ounces of silver for every ounce of gold and I can testify form my cataloging all sources of scrap silver that gets thrown away and not recovered is amassing.I get about 1/10 ounce of silver from the average older washing machine of the most common to be thrown away.So yes I would not be surprised if most all the silver mined has been thrown away and is no longer available. Here the biggie,all the mining in the world only produces a bit over 10 ounces of silver for ever ounce of gold, get it something really does not look right here and they say no shortages just does not seam plausible unless in fact everyone is just buying paper after all.<br />So yea there is no shortage of paper silver as long as very few but physical.In fact if everyone only ever bought paper silver there could never ever be any shortage.<br />Everyone here need to look more closely and ask are you seeing just what the power's that be i.e. TPTB want you to see??.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-13472386224025777632011-05-30T03:55:37.668+01:002011-05-30T03:55:37.668+01:00I agree with what Yukon has to say here - when Per...I agree with what Yukon has to say here - when Perth Mint tells you there's no shortage of physical silver, but there is a shortage of minted products then that's enough for me.<br /><br />Hey <b>Ultarnerd</b>, if you are going to persist with pushing the 'there-is-a-silver-shortage' meme, and not address any of my allegations, then this still puts you in the 'organised-misinformation-management' bucket.<br /><br />Watch this space, more shortly.Warren Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631403827559820571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-44012573732701153302011-05-30T03:48:18.899+01:002011-05-30T03:48:18.899+01:00There is absolutely no shortage of of silver anywh...There is absolutely no shortage of of silver anywhere. Any shop telling you that there is a shortage is speaking for themselves (as in they don't have enough cash on hand to stock their inventory) or they're making it up. I mean, you have gone out and looked yourself right? It's everywhere.<br /><br />There is literally so much inventory that retailers are dropping their premium to as low as 0.99/oz over spot. (Hint: That's what you do when you're desperately greasing the wheels to try and move inventory and get things moving again. We'd all see this if it was a cheeseburger at McDonalds, but because it's silver a lot of us still aren't seeing clearly. These places aren't short of silver, they're fricking drowning in it!!!)<br /><br />http://www.apmex.com/Category/860/Industrial_Silver.aspx<br /><br />Remember, the premium tells us what the real value of silver is right? There can't be one standard for an ETF and another for the real in your hands damn metal. Yeah, that's some targeted sarcasm. The more I think about this the more I'm convinced that there is some great misdirection going on here, but it's not from the people you've been told to not listen to, it's from the ones you've been listening to. The real question I keep asking myself is why...Yukon Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836033188658543480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-63887023564605851942011-05-30T01:50:44.600+01:002011-05-30T01:50:44.600+01:00I agree we will see the little guys lose inventory...I agree we will see the little guys lose inventory quicker but we would need to track their inventory over longer periods. If we did we would have a pretty good sentiment indicator.Louis Cypherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670126160101669248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-88933403363605301972011-05-30T00:42:47.697+01:002011-05-30T00:42:47.697+01:00Bullionbullscanada is a pretty small site with ver...Bullionbullscanada is a pretty small site with very little traffic. Traffic is measured in thousands a year. Any of the bigger suppliers showing any shortages in Canada?Louis Cypherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670126160101669248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-6260536162204896272011-05-30T00:28:31.801+01:002011-05-30T00:28:31.801+01:00Since we are talking about shortages here some stu...Since we are talking about shortages here some stuff I just recently found.Note that I live in Canada and I suspect there is a chance of less silver or gold propaganda here??<br />Just found this supplier in Canada advertising on <br />http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/ and this one is not terribly far <br />from where I live and look and behold,they report silver shortages <br />in the here and now.<br />http://www.broadsidebullion.ca/<br /><br />I have often said when the real crisis hits, it will <br />be when the small mints have trouble delivering and that will be when <br />it hits home rather than in the Comex or other far away place like <br />Afghanistan or Hodiniville.The average Joe can see his local shop empty and <br />start to worry some, but the far away places are just not not close <br />enough to panic him or the other sheeple.<br />Its a good guess that the big PTB also know this too, so note that I <br />predicted the small mints outside the US will display the shortages <br />first.I really believe the US will make extra sure those small US mints <br />will show no shortages until near the very end, as you cant have the US <br />people,especially not in the US, noticing anything.ultarnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028450790639145523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673441815180854503.post-48722408270309665392011-05-29T11:28:41.551+01:002011-05-29T11:28:41.551+01:00A test of my new blogger name and avatar. Thanks f...A test of my new blogger name and avatar. Thanks for endulging me.Animal Sacrificehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12574479106208156417noreply@blogger.com