

“Successful people can go their entire lives during boom, bust, deflation or inflation owning not an ounce of gold ...” [link]and at the same time, different wealth assets achieve this task in different capacities over different time frames, as Louis exemplifies:
“Kid, I would be happier holding onto just property but some jackass from the IRS will show up once a year looking for rent. I would be happier with food but it rots. My seashell collection and beads are no longer considered much use even by the native Americans around here ...” [link]I want to expand on the ‘claims on productivity of another person’ because I think it articulates many of the fiat anomalies that we experience, and even sheds some light on some of the precious metals culture.
Hello folks, back from a little vacation. Did I miss anything?
Everyone and his mother was waiting for a sell-off and we finally got one today, but weird that the DC earthquake served as a catalyst for much of the carnage. Immediately after the quake, equities shot up (wtf?) while metals fell (wtf?) even though the dollar also fell (wtf?), and mining stocks were absolutely destroyed (ok, no surprise there). Fair is foul and foul is fair these days. Incidentally, in this late stage of our fraudulent fiat currency regime, it's looking like some serious external shock is needed (along with the bullion bank raids, of course) to cause gold & silver to sell off once they really start picking up steam. The last three times that the metals had an RSI greater than 70, the RSI has stubbornly stayed over 70 until the day of some exogenous event: Fukishima, Osama bin Laden capture, and now the Gaddafi theater/DC earthquake.
OK let's start with the old stand by daily gold chart. We appear to have found support at the top purple dotted line. If we really do bounce off of it, then that might signify a game-changer and a flight to the moon (btw I was surprised to see both Ben Davies and Jim Rickards make a big deal of the Venezuela news). More likely, IMO, the top purple line fails as support, but the next purple trend line doesn't, at the $1725 area. If that too breaks, a drop to the 144-day MA would seem to be in the cards, which might then be in the mid- $1500 range.
If you recall, in early June, I brought up how the 144-day MA was moving in a straight line (or more precisely, coiling tightly around its regression line), such that, if that pattern were to continue, you could get a very good idea of what's going to happen based on what happened 144-days ago. Interestingly, today's $70 drop is exactly 144 days after the low point of the January 2011correction (of course I refer to trading days).
The 144-day MA (orange) is still tracking the brown regression line, which is good news (because if we assume the rate of ascent will continue its 3-year pattern, the further we are from the regression line, the more imminent the correction). The 200-day MA (green) also moves linearly, and that pattern also hasn't changed yet despite the huge jump in gold's price. Note 200-day intervals are also significant: I've circled two peaks exactly 200 days apart, and the November peak was exactly 200 days ago today.
Here's my updated monthly chart from June 2. Back then it very much looked like a breakout was impending, either up or down. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and call this one for up. Does it not look like we'll hit the purple line by the end of the year? That would be anywhere from $2100 to $2400 depending on how long it takes to get there.
Now silver. If you recall, I've been focusing on the blue trend line connecting the low points since silver's breakout of a year ago. Well, that line now seems to be really significant, as silver has bounced off of it 4 more times since I noted it back in July. If that line is broken, I'd hate to be short.
And here is the old stand by weekly chart. That trend channel looks like a real good one. The 34-week MA also seemed important even before silver bounced off of it in late June. It's now well over 36, so Wynter Benton is probably licking her chops. Or someone's chops, as I hear she is something of a free spirit.
“a 1000oz silver bar is approx 12cm x 9cm x 33cm (width x height x length) and they pack 1t per pallet in two layers of 2 bars wide by 8 bars deep = 32 bars, so excluding the height of the pallet, 1t would take up approx 96cm x 18cm x 66cm.”
Bron said .."Having trouble posting this comment to your post, could you put it up for me:--------------------
Precious metal vaults are not like distribution warehouses with space for 20 trucks to load up a one time. Most would have one dock or two.
And yes it isn't just unload, thanks mate, see you later. You are checking off each bar against the supplier's bar list.
So even if the metal was across the road it would take some time.
As to the purchase, I think what Victor and Kid guess is probably how it was done. You would certainly buy in smaller lots over a few days so no one in the market knows you are a large buyer. My guess is he bought it loco USA, not London.
However, it did not need to be done as forwards. Each lot could have been done as spot unallocated and on t+2 requesting immediate conversion to allocated (held in London). Then you take 3 months to get it shipped from London to Canada. This means you have no counterparty risk as it is off balance sheet allocated and all at the cost of about 3 cents per ounce for shipment.
Contrast to the forwards, where if the counterparty fails, you now have price exposure. Yes you still have your cash, but have issued shares at a price based on the forward deals which you now have to scramble to buy at current spot prices. If Sprott did forwards, then as Victor says he was backing PSLV with "paper" temporarily and exposing PSLV holders to counterparty exposure to bullion banks.
There are a few possible reasons why it was done this way:
1. Kid's reasons - it allows Sprott to talk about the 3 months delivery time and let the bugs misinterpret that.
2. He relied on his bullion bank counterparts to structure the deal and got played. They would have recommended forwards as they can make more margin on the forward points and it takes pressure off their physical books as they just sub contract with refineries to deliver over 3 months ex-US as and when the refinery has the physical.
The best thing Sprott could do for the silver bugs would be to open a London metals account with a bullion bank. Buy silver in lots from different counterparties, with settlement to his London account. When all done call up the bullion bank and ask for a 600t allocation - shouldn't be a problem as SLV has done numbers like that on a number of days. That way he finds out if the daily huge movements in SLV are real. My guess is he'll never do it this way because they will deliver it. Then he has no story to tell.
Alternatively, Sprott's organisation is just not that cluey on the PM markets and just take their banker's advice. With the size Sprott is dealing in, he could just contact refineries directly and cut the bankers out. Better still, just do a deal with a miner to buy the next 600t of their output. Thinking creatively there are many ways to structure this and minimise or eliminate exposure to banks."
"... Regarding Sprott: They got hosed. We spoke with Sprott people about their delivery problems, as well as with bankers. They handled it dreadfully, and did not require the banks to behave in standard market operating procedures. Why, we don’t know, but they did everything wrong the way many rank amateurs do. Sprott is an eminent salesman, however: He turned lemons to lemonade, saying not that he was an amateur in buying all that silver, over-paid, and was messed over in delivery. Instead, he said it was because there was a problem getting the physical silver. There was no problem with the silver; he just did not negotiate and handle the bank properly. No surprise there to anyone who has watched his funds over the years. ..."
"Warren - I just want to re-emphasize the point that Sprott's counterparty: ie, whomever was responsible for delivering PSLV's silver to PSLV - did NOT default on their side of the trade. this is important, as an uncareful reading of JC's explanation could conclude "just as we thought - the banks didn't give him what they owed him" which is false... "And just remember, the primary issue is here is not whether Sprott is a great marketer (he is) or whether buying silver is good (it can be), or any kind of character judgment (irrelevant). My focus is purely that the story about the delivery taking a long time because of silver shortages, as popularly portrayed during the initial PSLV offering, is false. And consequently, whether newbie investors were influenced into a particular investment because of a false portrayal. And that it's okay to explore the human element of being duped and feeling poorly about it. Bear in mind that the PSLV 'delayed delivery' story was one of the underpinning 'shortage of silver' proofs.